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Anonymous ftp to morose.cc.purdue.edu and look in pub/topy-online or email to shabby@mentor.cc.purdue.edu and ask for the index. New information always welcome. ------- furthermore, those sincerely interested in Thelemic Magick may wish to contact Tagi@cup.portal.com...who is about to begin a relevant e-journal... a mad L-ov-E from an Empty land, coyote 131 "The same power which appears in sun moon & stars, that power is in a black stone, & in darkness. Spirit & body are complete & perfect through each other. Seperate from each other they do not exist." -Haft Bab-i Baba Sayyidna ________________________________________________________________________________ 2-"thee twenty-third day" by marquis de Sade [an excerpt from 120 days ov Sodom] "But how is it possible to shout and roar the way you do when you discharge?" the Duc demand of Curval upon bidding him good morning on the 23rd of novembre. "Why the devil must you scream that way? I've never seen such violent discharges." "Why, by god," Curval replied, "is it for you, whom one can hear a league away, to address such a reproach to a modest man like myself? Those little murmurs you hear, my good fiend, are caused by my extremely sensitive nervous system: the objects which excite our passions create such a lively commotion in the electrically charged fluid that flows in our nerves, the shock received by the animal spirits composing this fluid is of such a degree of violence, that the entire mechanism is rattled by these effects, and one is just as powerless to suppress one's cries when overwhelmed by the terrible blows imparted by pleasure, as one would be when assailed by the powerful emotions of pain." "Well, you define the thing very well, President, but what was the delicate object that could have produced such a vibration in your animal spirits?" "I was very energetically sucking Adonis' prick, his mouth, and his asshole, for I was cast down with despair at not being able to do more to my couch companion; all the while I made the best of my hard situation, Antinous, seconded by your dear daughter Julie, labored, each in his own way, to evacuate the liquor whose eventual outpouring occasioned the musical sounds which, you say, struck your ears." ________________________________________________________________________________ 3_Liber Grimoiris_ The Parallels of East and West: Termas, Grimoires and _The Necronomicon_ By Frater I Nigris (666) Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. The word of Sin is Restriction. EAST In the east, especially Tibet, some sacred texts are called 'termas'. Tantric Buddhism is loaded with such references. In fact, Mahayana Buddhism is founded upon a text called the 'Heart of Wisdom' Sutra (scripture), transmitted by the Buddha via nagas (water dragons) to Nagarjuna (Arjuna of the nagas), who is said to have been a reincarnation of Ananda, Buddha's illustrious disciple. Here are some quotes to explain these interesting texts: "Terma - ...Tibetan, literally 'treasure.' In Tibetan Buddhism, a term for religious texts, which...were hidden in secret places, so that at the right time they would be discovered and newly expounded by qualified persons.... The preservation of religious literature in hidden places is a practice handed down from an earlier period in India. Thus Nagarjuna is said to have found teachings, which he later propagated, in the realm of the serpent spirits (naga), where they were being guarded from falling into the wrong hands. "The Nyingmapas possess by far the most voluminous terma literature, of which the most important works derive from Padmasambhava and his female companion Yeshe Tsogyel. These works are based not only on Indian sources but also on teachings from the land of Urgyen. According to his biography, Padmasambhava hid his works in 108 different places in Tibet, in caves, statues, etc. Among the best-known terma texts are just this biography of Padmasambhava and the _Tibetan Book of the Dead_ (_Bardo thodel_). In addition, works on astrology and the basic text on Tibetan medicine were transmitted as terma." _The Shambhala Dictionary of Buddhism and Zen_, pgs. 222-223; 1991, Shambhala Publications. ----------------- "Yeshe Tsogyel - ...Tibetan, literally 'Princess of the Wisdom Lake,'...; intimate companion of Padmasambhava and the most important female figure in the tradition of the Nyingmapa school.... Padmasambhava took her as his consort and transmitted to her particularly the teachings of the phurba cycle. Yeshe Tsogyel codified countless of her guru's teachings in terma texts and also composed his biography...." Ibid, p. 253. ------------------- "Phurba -...Tibetan, literally 'nail, wedge'; a dagger for subduing demons introduced into the ritual of Tibetan Buddhism by Padmasambhava. As a symbol for the direct transmutation of negative forces, it plays a central role in a system of meditative practice that was transmitted by Yeshe Tsogyel... "The origin of the phurba is associated with a long Tantra [scripture] presented by Padmasambhava at the beginning of his journey to Tibet. A deity personified as a phurba plays an important role as a yidam [an approximate equivalant of a 'telesmic image' - see William Gray] in the Sakyapa and Nyingmapa schools; new transmissions, in the form of terma texts, of teachings relating to this deity were discovered in the 19th century...." Ibid, p. 170. --------------------- These 'termas' were transmissions of esoteric doctrines. Their content was deposited in hidden locations by ancient masters. Only adept individuals, sufficiently qualified by awareness and connected to the master, could successfully 'discover' the terma - be it hidden in the dark recesses of a cave or in the seclusion a mystic grove. It is said that what was discovered were not 'scripts' (i.e. written documents) but energy-patterns, transduced through time via meditative purity. These the adepts translated into written form. Some adepts set out to discover these texts, while others (perhaps like the prophet Mohammed) simply had the experience thrust upon their secluded meditations. Yeshe Tsogyel discovered many of them for the Tibetan Tantrics, and the phenomenon is not simply eastern. WEST In the west such texts have sometimes been attributed to God or to a person who had an experience attributed to God (_The Revelation of St. John_, for example). In orthodox religion they are called 'revelations'. In heretical or 'occult' traditions they are called 'grimoires'. More often than not they are said to be of ancient or mystically powerful origin. As Richard Cavendish explains in _The Black Arts_, 1967, Putnam: "...the writers of old grimoires, or magical textbooks, which instruct the reader in methods of calling up evil spirits, killing people, causing hatred, and destruction or forcing women to submit to him in love, did not think of themselves as black magicians. On the contrary, the grimoires are packed with prayers to God and the angels, fastings and self-mortifications and ostentatious piety. The principal process in the _Grimoire of Honorius_, which is usually considered the most diabolical of them all, overflows with impassioned and perfectly sincere appeals to God and devout sayings of the Mass. It also involves tearing out the eyes of a black cock and slaughtering a lamb, and its purpose is to summon up the Devil." p. 3. -------------------- Cavendish confines his writings about 'grimoires' here to those which are intended to aid the adept in summoning demonic entities, descriptions complete with bodily movements and 'barbarous names' of evocation. It seems that many such texts are in existence, having survived the ravages of an orthodox fear, yet not all of them concern this subject. When looking at the origin of grimoires and termas, what is being cited as their 'source' (e.g. 'Abraham the Jew', the source of _The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage_; or 'Aiwaz/Aiwass', the source/channel of _The Book of the Law_) is a certain state of consciousness. Whether this state of consciousness is in some way related to any historical or extra-terrestrial figure I leave to the discernment of the reader. Given all this, there is no reason why a text could not be referred to ahead of time by its source, the 'intended' recipient, or a knowledgeable or intuitive third party. The state of consciousness is there to experience by those with the courage and ability. The scripture will be received by the adept in any case, and there is no reason why more than one copy of said text could not be obtained, though individual minds being what they are it will most likely be a different 'version'. Perhaps this is the reason that the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John differ as much as they do. _THE NECRONOMICON_ When we then turn to the text referred to as _The Necronomicon_ by H.P. Lovecraft, we are hard-pressed to render a 'verdict' as to its legitimacy. If indeed the text preceded Lovecraft, then this does not guarantee that it has come down to us unedited. If the idea and title were used by Lovecraft as a result of suggestions from others without an extant text, then perhaps its 'source consciousness' hid the text until a later time. If Lovecraft fabricated even the IDEA of the tome along with its title, then perhaps he was simply a 'third party' to a state of consciousness which we may never assess. The writing of this tome at ANY time after Lovecraft's fabrication, in the special context of termas and grimoires, does nothing to disprove its value or its origin. Just because Lovecraft was perceptive enough to imagine such a text, this does not mean that it did not exist in some fashion (be it within or WITHOUT the dimension we call 'earth'). The ONLY means of evaluating the various versions of _The Necronomicon_, therefore, is in comparison with Lovecraft's writings and through personal experience of the tome in question. Given sufficient qualification and connection, the adept may then be able to analyze the contents of the version in question and discern whether it represents a clear reflection of the source consciousness. Two points regarding even this method must be understood. First, Lovecraft's own ideas about the text may have been faulty. Therefore, his description in his writings regarding the text are questionable. One can only say, given that one feels a specific version of the text varies from Lovecraft's description yet represents a valid grimoire, that these two 'Necronomicons' are different and possibly of different origin. Second, ALL such evaluations are subjective and therefore deserve the skepticism of other students. We can not arrive at 'objective knowledge' about this, and thus no review can be considered absolute in its authority. Certainly some adepts' opinions may be accepted over others by the researcher, but even this is a personal preference and cannot constitute the final word in the matter. Therefore, regardless of the history or origin of _The Necronomicon_, whether or not Lovecraft fabricated it or reflected it in some way, all claims that writings entitled _The Necronomicon_ are useless or based in ignorance must be taken in context - as personal opinions. Those who pass such judgements make a claim to adeptship themselves in order to perform such an evaluative role. Unless we can vouch for the ability and awareness of those who do the reviewing, it is a mistake to take them too seriously. The best means of evaluating grimoires and termas is personally, and only then after taking steps to develop our mind to such an extent that exposure to their occulted energies will not also expose us to danger or in some way disclose that for which we are unprepared. Some grimoires, it is said, can NEVER be prepared for in this way and have powerful effects upon ALL those with sufficient perception to comprehend their horrible secrets. In the realms of consciousness, 'time' and the 'transmission of teachings' are not the simple concepts that many would have us believe. Be warned that some who 'approve' or 'contest' the validity of a scripture are either myopic or have political goals - the enslavement of your mind! Invoke me under my stars. Love is the law, love under will. I am I! 9208.06 e.v. Frater I Nigris (666) Tagi@Cup.Portal.Com or portal!cup.portal.com!Tagi@Uunet.uu.net --------------------------- "Behold! the rituals of the old time are black Let the evil ones be cast away; let the good ones be purged by the prophet! Then shall this knowledge go aright." _Liber Al vel Legis_ ________________________________________________________________________________ 4-sea of oblivion by shinjiki takahashi, japanese dada poet turned zen monk future, past, the sea of oblivion, with present capsized sun splits the sea in two- one half's already bottled legs spread on the beach, a woman feels the crab of memory crawl up her thigh somewhere her lover drowns sand-smeared, bathing in dreams, the young leap against each other ________________________________________________________________________________ 5-thee OV must FLOW! [a book reveiw by c131] GUARDIANS OF THE FLUTES (idioms of masculinity) Gilbert H Herdt [McGraw-Hill, 1981] an in depth anthropological look into one particluar (non-head-hunting) tribe in new guneia...it compares this tribe's myths with its rituals its behaviour and actual practice...what was of interest to me...was a detailed account of initiaory rites...which included institutionalized homosexuality...their whole universe revolves around a positive flow of semen and a negative flow of blood...[particular menstrual blood]... hence for women to become masculine enough to give birth they must ingest their husbands semen...and do so to supply their breasts with milk... and for boys to become masculine...they must ingest older boys and bachelor men's semen...blood is considered unclean...and among the men ritualized bleeding is done to cleanse themselves of feminity impurities such as heterosexual intercourse, child birth or being in the vicintiy of a menstruating female... quite an interesting look into the ritual uses of semen and blood... highly recomend it... ________________________________________________________________________________ END TRANSMISSION